It's easy to make your own. There's a thread about it on the old board.
It's easy to make your own. There's a thread about it on the old board.
I recently sold my home grooming table that had the grooming arm attached to the top surface. I hate the clamp on style that is everywhere. How/where can I get the old kind that I have to drill a hole for? Anyone know the technical term for this fixture?
This worked wonderfully! He was like whole new cat. Used the muzzle, sat on the floor with him on my lap. He had some moments but calmed right down with gentle scratches to his neck. I was able to shave/scissor him from head to toe and tail. He truly thinks he's the cat's meow. Mom says he has turned into a vocal little lovebug.I love my job.
That is great!
Pic of collar area. I didn't plan well and cut one too few pieces for the loops, but used the white cord to mark the collar's clasp.
My sweet, blind Weeble modeling my faux air muzzle. I have to take a break from challenging grooms, so just took pics.
Yes, please let us know how it works!
Arghh, when will I learn to do my posts in Microsoft Word first? OK, I made my own faux air muzzle with a hamster ball I got from a thrift store (score!) I JB plastic welded the two halves together, JB’d grosgrain ribbon around one hole to make it more rounded against the kitty’s neck (didn’t end up soft though) basting it to the ball really quickly (sets in 5 min.) so it would adhere. Made loops out of one of those slip leads you get from the vet, attaching them thru the slits of the ball and slipped a collar thru the loops. I figure my easy-to-adjust collar from my Mikki Muzzle should work perfectly. It fits my large kitties, but they are very mellow, so don’t know how durable it is. No Velcro tho, so shouldn’t be ripped off by a clever/motivated kitty.
Hmmm, those slip leads would probably be better than grosgrain. It’s thick enough the glue would probably not seep all the way through. I’ll be trying it on a kitty determined to remain hairy this week, I think. If it works, I’ll post some pics.
Thank you so much. Usually I don't have issues with kitties, just shoot for 10 - 15 min to do nails and haircut and continue to neaten if the kitty allows. But I have two new clients that start howling, hissing, spitting and bolting immediately. Hopefully, I have no typos, one of my kitties is "helping" me type
I do not have good cat handling experience. I feel pretty confident (ok as confident as I'll ever be grooming a cat lol!) when using an e collar.
I have an air muzzle. Honestly, I never use it. I find it very unwieldy. It seems to get in the way and piss off the cat just as much as a muzzle would. If I have a cat that is being difficult, the most restraint I will use is an e-collar. The more restraints and restrictions you put on a cat, the worse their behavior gets. at least that is what has been my experience. Most mad kitties get done with just a draped towel over their heads so they can 'hide' from the grooming. But if you don't have cat-handling confidence, it may be a useful tool in helping to build that up, because you know you aren't going to get bit with a hamster ball over the head. LOL!
I've been checking these out since going without a muzzle on a little kitty didn't work and using the regular, clip-on muzzle did not work well for the kitty. It stayed on, but somehow the cat kept escaping my hold and he woud just try to take off and run into things. I stopped when he started panting. I've never seen a cat pant from stress and I don't like it at all.
So, this air muzzle looks like a good idea. I've seen many comments on how easily it breaks, which seem preposgterous consideing the cost. My main concern is the use of velcro to secure it. I know from experience that if the kitty really needs to be muzzled, the cloth ones that close with velcro are useless. One shove with clawed paw and it's off. I would think this would also happen with the air muzzle. I've seen an air muzzle II, but the advertised claim for it's improvement is that it is less breakable and I can't tell how it is secured.
I found a hamster ball that appears to be the same size as the air muzzle. I'm considering plastic glueing the two halves together, drilling holes around one opening (if necessary, it does have slits). and attaching it to an adjustable collar. I'd have all the ventilation, a kitty can see where they are going if they escape my hold (Hah! though their view will be rosy since it is purply pink). It is light. I checked the whole size on my kitties, who are very large, and it fits and the edge of the hole is smooth.
Any experience with the air muzzle? Any input, concerns, ideas, etc. on the hamster ball idea?
I have an electric table Edemco, love it. Would like switch on both sides. and wheels would be awesome. I was told by my physiotherapist that she sees alot of problems with hairdressers that use the hydrolic (I don't think I spelled that right!) with problems in the hip and thigh but then again they would move the chair up and down constantly which we wouldn't be doing. I really love my electric table, shoulder problems disappeared when i started using it.
Mine is grey/green colour and does seem to mark up alot, I think a black one would be better. It has plugs on its base which is good although you don't use them for things you will be constantly switching but I do have my clippers plugged in there. The Edemco is very wide on the depth of its table base which may be a problem with the type of grooming arm you may want to switch too, I had to use a special one for my Groomer's Helper. It does have the capability for a grooming arm on both ends. Hope this helps. Pat
I don't personally have one, but I have used them a few times. I do love them.
If your table is set up where you walk around it, I think having a foot pedal on both sides would be a plus.
Extra electric outlets might be handy, but it wouldn't decide for me on a particular brand.
For me, and my set up, wheels wouldn't make a difference. If I planned to use it to say get a large dog into the tub -- step on it lowered, then move it to the tub and raise it so he could step in, wheels would be nice.
I have no color preference. I've used a light colored and a black topped one.
The two I have used have been very sturdy.
I would want to know if there's a way to raise and lower the table should the electricity go out or if the lift motor went out. It would stink to have it stuck either too high or too low while waiting for repairs.
Ok let me try this...
Can u tell me what u like or dislike about Electrical Grooming tables?
What options would u like to have w/ Electronic table such as :
Foot pedal on both sides of the table
Extra electric outlets on the table
Height to 48 inches
Wheels on the table
Color of the table top
What do u dislike about an electrical grooming table?
i would like to purchases a new grooming table.
I've been looking at the Hanvey electric. Does anyone have any experience with this table?
I had forgotten about the gentle leader until you mentioned it awhile back. Used it on a barky/nippy dog & it worked great. This is something I like about the forum: it reminds me to try things again!
That's a great price. I like how it goes around the muzzle too. I've used the GH but prefer using my Gentle Leader attached to the grooming arm post over just the collar type attachment. I think it gives much more control.
Thanks for letting us know about this.
I had a good experience with these folks. I couldn't afford the Groomers Helper, so cobbled together a makeshift knockoff with a chain & c-clamp on my grooming arm. It worked well but was not all that attractive. A while back I got the WOSS for maybe $25... But I did not like the sliding t-handle (didn't seem safe). Then, I saw they upgraded the grooming arm attachment, called to order it (happy to pay) and they sent it to me for free, next day shipping! I LOVE IT! I know Groomers Helper is the best, but this is only $34/and works great!
I am considering the Hanvey Adjustable Folding Table (36 x 24) for a new trainee. Has anyone used one of these? They look really well made but I noticed there is no "mid" support for the legs... Are they sturdy?
Oh wolf, I hop ethis doesn;t seem like I'm picking on you but I have to disagree again. Adjustable tables are not a luxury, they are a necessity. Good, ergonomic equipment is not a luxury, it's a requirement to keep groomers healthy, safe and comfortable. Gone are the days (hopefully, although I'm sure they exist somewhere) of sweathshop grooming with minimal, low end equipment. All this did was lead to beaten down groomers with health issues an repetitive motion injuries.
How many groomers here have back issues from lifting dogs? Or from bending and twisting to work at a comfortable level? I don't consider equipment that prevents this from happening a luxury. Groomer health is a necessity.
So, I would add to the curriculum how to groom ergonomically to preserve long term health and prevent injury. The equipment a school has should reflect that.
I groomed forever without a adjustable table. But using one sure is easier. And when you may have very short students or very tall students, it may be a good investment.
But they are not required in order to groom quite well. They are a luxury. IF students learned on regular stationary tables, think how spoiled they would feel when they started working in a shop with adjustable tables afterwards. LOL.
Yes. I think I absolutly need either electric or hydraulic for finishing work. I've been checking around and looking into as many schools I can find and I'm just in almost shock for what they provide students. This stuff is not up to my standards or the employees standards I've had in the past. If I'm a school charging 6k for 12-14 weeks I sure hope I could provide them with something better than a laundry tub, and a staitionary table from the early 90's, an orange metro dryer and a box fan.
At this point I'm just trying to figure out what brand I should look into. I've only had ultralift brand tubs and tables in my shops. However, I'm trying find something that students could afford to buy if they decide to go out on their own. I want them to test out various types and really see whats out there and still affordable for a start up. (if they choose that path)
If you are outfitting a school, I would absolutely go with an adjustable table. The students need to learn comfortably. A tall person will need a taller table. It's also much safer for the dogs to be on a table that allows the groomer to better handle them.