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    • August 16, 2012 7:47 PM CDT
    • I have several of the Mars Coat Kings and I love them for deshedding coats. I use them several times a week but I don't find that they remove matts very well...at least not for me.

    • August 16, 2012 7:37 PM CDT
    • LOL to AmySuz ~ I prefer the tool you pictured to the matt breaker. I don't even know where my matt breaker is anymore but I use the other one daily. I find it does a much better job of getting under tight to the skin matts and with the rounded tips I find it safer than the matt breaker.

       

      Barb ~ have you ever tried the Mars Coat Kings? I have several in different sizes and teeth widths. I use them for pretty much just what you did with the matt breaker. I think they are more comfortable and ergonomic for your hand, though, because the handle is from the base so it's a straight down pull, not sideways to the teeth, so it's less askward tension on your wrist.

    • August 16, 2012 7:13 PM CDT
    • Barb, which one is called the matt breaker...the Les Poochs or the other tool?

    • August 16, 2012 6:09 PM CDT
    • Ah....  I still use my matt breaker tool for getting out matts, but not that often. It depends on how generous I'm feeling. Smile The tool that I've found to be mostly useless is the one below. It looks like it would be cool, but most matts are too small and too close to the skin for this to do any good. The only time I used it successfully was on a big somewhat loosely matted labradoodle tail. Most of the time, a little Ice on Ice and a Les Pooch brush will suffice on looser matts.

       

       

    • August 16, 2012 5:58 PM CDT
    • It gets more coat with less effort and drag.

      Barb

    • August 16, 2012 5:13 PM CDT
    • And why are you using this instead of a Furminator or some other type of stripping tool?

    • August 16, 2012 4:33 PM CDT
    • I recently rediscovered one of my favorite little tools. I think it's called the matt breaker. It is fabulous for thinning out a coat!

       

      I've been using it on a mutant Yorkie that even coming in every 3 weeks his coat was a bear to work through.

       

      The pics are of Chloe. She's a wild and crazy (in a good way) cockapoo so leaving her natural fits her personality.

       

      As you'll see in the pictures, I get a lot of coat out of her with it, without changing her look, but TOTALLY making her easier to groom.

       

      The first picture is before.

       

       

       

    • June 11, 2012 8:58 PM CDT
    • Yup. I've split an ear with a comb too, 3mina. I've never done it with a brush though I HAVE brush burned the back of the ear (you know, where matts tend to congregate), but not since I've had my Le Pooch brushes. The only thing I have brush burned recently was when I was trying a slicker brush a friend gave me. I'd been so used to the Le Pooch being so gentle that I 'forgot' the damage a slicker could do to skin. :/

       

      Oh, and my favorite comb is the Whal orange handle comb. I have tried many others over the years including combs picked up at dog shows, Chris Christensen Butter combs, etc. A friend gave me that Wahl a couple years ago and that is all I have used since. 2 years of daily use and abuse and it's tines are still ram-rod straight while all the other combs in my drawer (including the butter combs) have bent or missing tines. :/ I seriously doubt any comb would be worth $150 to me. . . 

    • June 11, 2012 8:05 PM CDT
    • I did that with a very badly matted ear tip the other day with my comb. I tried to get the Matt away from the ear tip and put four notches into it

    • June 11, 2012 6:36 PM CDT
    • The dog's ear was lightly matted and I was brushing. That skin is so thin at the ends. I'm sure it just went through the matt just right, hit the skin, and sliced it.

       

      Barb

    • June 11, 2012 6:33 PM CDT
    • Bottom line...any slicker brush can cut a dog no matter what brand we use. Barb, do you know exactly how it happened?

    • June 11, 2012 6:19 PM CDT
    • I put a very nice slice in an Afghan's ear once with a regular universal slicker.  It needed stitches.....

       

       

      Barb

    • June 11, 2012 5:46 PM CDT
    • Poodlepuppy said:

       

      BTW I would also wonder what was so special abot the $150. comb? 

       

      Oh that's the new "Emperor's Model Comb". Wink I'd be afraid to try it due to my long deceased Mentor picking it up and smacking me with it in the back of the head.

    • June 11, 2012 5:27 PM CDT
    • I forgot to add that I do wish they had a shorter handle. I've heard someone else say they snagged a Maltese ear with one of the brushes.

      What I do is I will brush a matted ear staying away from the skin, when  i get to the skin I switch to my Millers forge slicker, (very dull) and finish with the comb.

      They have their little quirks , but I thing they are the best anyway.

      BTW I would also wonder what was so special abot the $150. comb? 

       

    • June 11, 2012 7:21 AM CDT
    • I'm with Catsmom on this one. Only bad puncture I've ever had was from a Les Pooches brush. I also don't like to brush burn a dog and this was more likely with that brush as well, WITH ME. Yes I used it as instructed and while different I could get used to it. No go for me. 

       

      I have every Bass Slicker size there is. I can rub anyone of them on my Grandbabies butt and it won't leave a single stroke or scratch mark. (Not that I do that.) I adore these  brushes and find nothing comparable. I do have to say that the handles don't stay on mine, I've glued them done whatever to keep the handles on and finally just ripped all the handles off and use them without. It's actually a more ergonomically efficient way for me to use them without the handles. I screwed a small leather strip across the back of them, slip my hand or a couple of fingers through it and fluff brush away! I also believe there is a difference in the finished fluff brush with the Bass as opposed to the other brushes I use, which are All Systems. I will also tell you I looked very hard at my oldest one the other day to determine whether I needed to order another one of that size or not. I use it every day on 8-12 dogs, 5 days a week, and have had it for over a year. Not a single pin was bent, out of place or looked like some of my other slickers from other manufacturers. (Like I'd scrubbed the mud out of DH's golf shoes with it? )

       

      I use the teflon coated greyhound type combs.

    • June 11, 2012 6:35 AM CDT
    • I've been using LP brushes since they first came out, around 1998.  I bought the 3 piece set (yellow, red, and blue)  when they dubuted at Groom Expo.  The very first time I used one, I was unsure of whether or not I liked it, but I quickly decided that they were AWESOME.  I found that they were easier on the dogs and my wrist, because of the flexibility of the head.  Also, the length of the tines allowed better penetration of the hair which made for a quicker brushout.  Dogs that were previously such a CHORE to brush became much less work with those brushes.  

       

      Are they PERFECT?  No.  I'd like a more ergonomic handle (with a rubber grip).  If I found a better brush, I'd use it, because in order to be better (other than the aforementioned handle), it would have to brush the dog by itself! 

       

      As for 'poking', I too consider that operator error.  

       

      I must say that I AM intrigued by the Bass brushes, and will eventually give one a try.  

       

      Oh, and as for the $150 LP combs, I couldn't possibly FATHOM that a comb could be worth that kind of money, but when I think about how well worth it the brushes are, I have to wonder, COULD it be worth the $$$?  I'll never know because I'm not willing to spend the money to possibly (probably) find out that I just paid for the name and the comb is nothing special.  

    • June 11, 2012 5:51 AM CDT
    • Here is the answer I received from Les Pooch…..


      Les Poochs polishes the tip of each bristle to provide comfort for your dog, however the tips of the bristles are not rounded. The Les Poochs brushes are primarily used for dematting the coat. Brushes that feature rounded tips do not penetrate and grip the coat sufficiently to demat the coat.

    • June 11, 2012 1:18 AM CDT
    • "Sooo, my question is.....can someone give me an idea of which brushes are the most needed/popular so I can consider buying a few?"

       

      I don't know if this helps, but the gold and silver brushes are comparable to the green and purple brushes, except they have more teeth. The gold and silver brushes are considered more "professional" and I don't think they even show up on the web site, but you can ask for them if you call in. The difference between the green and purple brushes is that the rubber flexible part on the green brush is more flexible than the purple. Similarly, the difference between the gold and silver brushes is that the rubber part on the gold brush is more flexible than the silver. I don't like the green and gold brushes because that extra flexibility just makes me have to press harder. And I don't find any advantage of the extra teeth in the silver brush, so my favorite is the purple. But some people really like the extra teeth in the the gold and silver brushes.

    • June 10, 2012 10:37 PM CDT
    • That butter comb from Geib lasted me about 2 minutes before I had teeth falling out of it & that was on a dog that was in good condition.

    • June 10, 2012 9:18 PM CDT
    • I recently bought les pooch brushes: gold, silver, purple and red all double ones. I LOVE my red dematter brush. I now understand how people say they could not do without this brush. The one major thing I like about it is: that in the past dogs I would of labeled as having matts, with this brush I don't even consider them to have matts as they brush out so easily. I would buy again. Yes, I have 'stuck' myself with this brush BUT I have 'stuck' myself with so many other pin brushes. I consider this 'Operator Error'. Not the fault of the brush!

    • June 10, 2012 7:28 PM CDT
    • Just to throw my two cents in.. I dont know if I could live without my red demat Les Pooch brush.. I had the double one but stupidly gave it to the @#$%% I used to work with. I do have the single one and use it daily.. Yes I have stabbed myself with it from time to time but have also done that with a regular slicker and even a metal comb lol. It did take me a while to get used to it though...

    • June 10, 2012 6:50 PM CDT
    • For $150 the comb had better comb the hair all by itself while I'm busy elsewhere. There's a point of vanishing returns and just because someone pays $2K for a designer purse, it doesn't hold more than the Kmart bag, it doesn't necassarily last longer or even is made better.


      I've got two stainless steel combs, called "greyhound style" combs with extra long tines. I've had them for well over a decade and I once ran over one with a truck just to prove a point(and win a bet). They cost me about $15 each a long time ago. I've seen a ton of other steel combs and none were any better. Some were worse.


      It's like anything in life. You pay more for quality. But you don't automatically get MORE quality the more you pay. Price doesn't matter. Quality matters. Like the haircut mentioned, throwing a lot of money doesn't affect the product or service.. only other people who look at price tags.

    • June 10, 2012 5:07 PM CDT
    • I know the "pat, pat" technique. It's not the technique I have an issue with, it's the design of the brush itself. As for the pins, why is it then that I have never pricked myself with a CC or Bass? I use them daily. Over the years I've tried the LePooch again and again. They still suck, LOL.

       

      And $150 for a comb? Really? Reminds me of someone who worked in my office who refused to get her hair cut ANYWHERE except Bumble and Bumble in NYC because that was THE place. After all, if you weren't paying $200 (and that was 15 years ago) for a haircut, you just weren't going to the "right" place. Every time she came back from that place she b*tched about what they did wrong. But there was no way she'd go any other place for a haircut, that was THE place at the time. LMAO $150 for a comb?!!!!! Sorry but I'm sure the CC ones at $45 are equally as good and I can get 3 of them.

       

      I agree that more expensive equipment is usually worth the price because of it's design. But sometimes there is just NO justification except "trendy" and $150 for a comb seems to be pandering to those who feel that unless they are paying the absolute most they can, they are not getting the "IT" item. I don't do trendy. I am not trying to be offensive. Good for Le Pooch and their marketing to convince some people that their $150 comb is 3 times better than the CC $45 one. I'm just not believing it and if it's not 3 times better than it's just overpriced hype.

       

      I know some people LOVE these brushes and that's fine, I'm not trying to convince anyone to stop! I'm just trying to add another POV to those who are still researching. I am joining in in encouraging everyone to buy better and invest in your equipment, just be educated and buy smart.

    • June 10, 2012 4:50 PM CDT
    • Almost forgot, they sell a comb for $150.00. Anyone know why their comb is so special and worth that kind of money? Anyone have one?

    • June 10, 2012 4:46 PM CDT
    • As I stated above, I have and use a brush with rounded polished tips and I love it! It's the Bass Brush. You can try a hundred ways to poke your finger and it is impossible with the Bass. It glides through the coat without tearing it. I believe that if the Les Pooch had rounded polished tines....it would be in the description. I just might call them to find out for myself.