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    • June 10, 2012 4:23 PM CDT
    • And Catsmom--Not sure what kind of Le Pooch you have but I have never experienced anything like you have described. I have been using them for about 3 years now, not sure when you got your "old" ones. But yes, they ARE more gentle than the cheap brushes. I test them on the soft part of my arm. Regular slickers HURT, the Le Pooch do not.

    • June 10, 2012 4:19 PM CDT
    • They ARE still wire! LOL! Just because the tips are polished doesn't mean they won't jab ya if you're not careful! LOL!

       

      There is a certain technique to using the Le Pooch style brushes. It's different from a regular slicker and once you get the hang of it is actually MUCH gentler than using a traditional hard-backed slicker. If you go at a dog with it like it is a regular brush, using the same force and type of stroke, then yes--you are likely to tear s%it up! LOL! It is more of a 'gliding pat, pat, pat' motion than a drag/stroke motion. Some do well with it, some don't. I'll be honest, I really didn't like mine for the first week or two I had them, but like my Taxi Vac I FORCED myself to use them and now I can't be without one! But like any specialty tool (such as a recirculator or vacuum clipping system) there are those that can get the hang of it, and those that can't. . .

    • June 10, 2012 4:18 PM CDT
    • wizardofpaws said:

      Here is the thing about high-quality brushes:

      They help you work SMARTER not HARDER.

      When you start to 'splurge' and start buying high quality tools to work with coat you will notice that eventually you will stop having dogs that come in with matts! That's RIGHT! These brushes and other high quality brushes (like Chris Christensen) preserve the condition of the coat and cause minimal coat damage. Cheapy brushes rip up the hair cuticle and cause MAJOR damage to a coat as you are brushing, ESPECIALLY when you are trying to de-matt. Cheap brushes are (of course) cheaply made. Their pins are blunt cut and left that way causing the pins to actually be a sharp, rough surface on which the hair snags as it's being drug through the coat. Brushes such as Le Pooch have the extra step of having their pins be polished so there are no edges to snag coat. 

      For me good tools are not a 'splurge' but a necessity.

      Oh, and BTW, my favorite is the gold. :)

       

      I agree 100% with this except the part about Le Pooch having rounded and polished pins. Again, unless I have old ones and they've done something new, you're being sold a bill of goods or someone said they are and they're not disputing it and it's just a rumor! LOL

       

      CC and Bass brushes ARE rounded and polished and they say so. If I press my finger to a LePooch, it punctures the skin to draw blood. I can do the same to the CCs or Bass' and it does not puncture the skin. ??? The CC's are about $30 a pop, the Bass about $15. Another reason I like the Bass better is that they have rubber grips built right into the handle. With the CC, the wooden handle can slip in your hand, especially if you are using a silicon product, making you grip it tighter

       

      As for coat damage and working smarter, absolutely true. There is a reason why some of these products are more expensive. Like shears, yes the more expensive ones are better, LOL. BUT, you still need to do your research and BUY smart as well as work smart.

    • June 10, 2012 4:15 PM CDT
    • The polished tips are to help protect the coat, not your fingers. A poke is a poke whether the tips are polished or not.  You can get brush burn from any brush, even a bristle brush, if you are brushing too hard or too much in one area.

       

      The polished tips go through the coat better, it's smoother without as much drag.

       

      I've not used the others mentioned to compare. I can compare them to the universal slickers and the Pet Edge knock offs, and the Les Pooch and I find the LP much better to use.

       

      Barb

    • June 10, 2012 4:03 PM CDT
    • Why is there is no mention of the rounded polished tips in their description? I have a brush that has polished rounded tips (not Les Pooch) and I like it for the very reasons Wizard mentioned. I saw nothing describing the Les Pooch as having anything special about the tines with the exception of, the bend is lower on the tine so that you can get down in the coat better.


      Also, if the tine tips are polished, how is it that some folks have injured a dog or injured themselves with the Les Pooch? I too have stabbed my finger with a tine from a traditional slicker and it hurts!!!

    • June 10, 2012 3:27 PM CDT
    • Here is the thing about high-quality brushes:

       

      They help you work SMARTER not HARDER.

       

      When you start to 'splurge' and start buying high quality tools to work with coat you will notice that eventually you will stop having dogs that come in with matts! That's RIGHT! These brushes and other high quality brushes (like Chris Christensen) preserve the condition of the coat and cause minimal coat damage. Cheapy brushes rip up the hair cuticle and cause MAJOR damage to a coat as you are brushing, ESPECIALLY when you are trying to de-matt. Cheap brushes are (of course) cheaply made. Their pins are blunt cut and left that way causing the pins to actually be a sharp, rough surface on which the hair snags as it's being drug through the coat. Brushes such as Le Pooch have the extra step of having their pins be polished so there are no edges to snag coat. 

       

      For me good tools are not a 'splurge' but a necessity.

       

      Oh, and BTW, my favorite is the gold. :)

    • June 10, 2012 2:40 PM CDT
    • We've got a couple Le Pooch brushes in the shop. I don't use them, tried and didn't care for them. I don't think they do a good job on the dogs. I don't like the handle design, and it's harder on my wrist.


      I know a lot of groomers love them, but I guess different strokes for different folks, right?I like the curved back brushes instead... and I can buy ten of them for the price of one Le Pooch.


      (didja see the pun there? "Strokes"? Brushes?)

    • June 10, 2012 2:38 PM CDT
    • if you call and say you are a professional and can prove it they are more reasonably priced, I don't know if its ok to say the price sheet I got. -shrugs-  But its one of those things (like my taxi vac, prima, bathing beauty) that probably once I have I won't be able to live without it. :)  sigh, I'm becoming such a spoiled groomer!

    • June 10, 2012 2:32 PM CDT
    • And here is the dissenting voice, LOL.

       

      I hate Le Pooch brushes. The only injury I have ever had in my shop in 10 years that required vet care was a torn ear on a Maltese. Stupid me, instead of a dematting tool, I grabbed a Le Pooch brush to brush the ear out and ripped into the skin. Polished and rounded pins, my a**. I've stabbed myself with those brushes several time and punctured my skin. Maybe newer ones are rounded and mine are older but, IMO, they are not worth the money or the hype.

       

      I DO love my Chris Christiensen brushes. I DO think they are worth the money. However, and I've posted this here before, I purchased some Bass brushes at Hershey and they are the BEST, BEST, BEST I have ever used, comparable to the CC brushes but significanty less expensive. And those pins ARE polished, I have never stabbed myself with one of them. They have ergonomic bamboo handles, not straight hard plastic crap. Le Pooch brushes, the handle is hard and straight and the only thing that flexes is the brush portion. OK, so you have a little dog and, unless you are going to press that brush into the dog to get to the lower legs or body near the table top (or put the dog at the edge of the table), you can't brush down that low because the handle is straight to the brush and about 4 inches long! The CC and Bass brushes have a curve and angle built in so you can brush all the way down. (I hope I explained that well!!)

       

      JMO and I know I am against the popular tide but, not worth the money and not even good brushes.

    • June 10, 2012 2:24 PM CDT
    • I have the pro Les Pooch brushes. I have Gold, Silver, Green ,Purple and the Red Mat brush.

      I like them all I'd say the Silver is the one I don't use that much. The rest get used every day I am grooming all depending in the condition of the coats.

      I love these brushes, one of my favorite tools.

      I love the FT shampoo too and I am out of it.

      Some of the shampoos I don't like the fragance. I like the creme rinse , it smells really good.

    • June 10, 2012 1:33 PM CDT
    • greenpaw, I know what you mean! I just looked at the les Pooch prices and remembered why I didn't order last time I checked out their website. I just can't bring myself to spend that kind of money on a wire brush. I think for now I will stick with my #1 All System brushes. Maybe down the road I will try one but not now.

    • June 10, 2012 11:39 AM CDT
    • lol.  ok so the dematting brush is too hard how would you use it? On poodles or is it for huskies?

       

      I'm always afraid of brush burn, nothing will make a customer find someone else faster. :(

       

      Is it worth getting a set? It's cheaper if you buy 4+. 8+ etc. 

    • June 10, 2012 11:10 AM CDT
    • I don't have any others to trade, but I'd buy the red one from you.

       

      Barb

    • June 10, 2012 11:00 AM CDT
    • Hey Barb, I'd sell or trade you a red Les Pooch brush. I would consider trying one that is softer. 

    • June 10, 2012 10:56 AM CDT
    • Funny...Papssnpaints hates the red and Barb loves the red. Now what? LOL Is the red soft?

    • June 10, 2012 10:53 AM CDT
    • One thing I know for sure is, I like soft slicker brushes and don't want one that hurt me or gives the dog brush burn. I heard someone mention the Gold Les Pooch brush in a different thread so I'm wondering if that one will do for all my needs…any suggestions. I'm ready to splurge!

    • June 10, 2012 10:51 AM CDT
    • The red one is the one I used most. I have a silver that I use as well, but I always grab the red first.

       

      Barb

    • June 10, 2012 10:47 AM CDT
    • I do like to use better quality combs. I like the Butter Combs. I can't remember who makes them..... Geib? I insist on a good quality comb (read expensive) but I use the Pet Edge black and tourquise slicker brushes, go figure. 

    • June 10, 2012 10:44 AM CDT
    • I hate the red Les Pooch dematting brush. It's way to stiff, I hurt myself everytime I use it, so I don't use it. I have a Purple one but don't use it very much.  

    • June 10, 2012 10:42 AM CDT
    • TOTALLY worth it!!

    • June 10, 2012 9:47 AM CDT
    • I can't imagine that any brush is worth that kind of money but everyone seem to think that they are awesome. Sooo, my question is.....can someone give me an idea of which brushes are the most needed/popular so I can consider buying a few?

    • June 10, 2012 9:42 AM CDT
    • I had a hard time making my first Les Pooch purchase. I could not imagine paying that much for a brush.

       

      I love them. I haven't used anything else in years.  I tried the knock offs, but they weren't the same. The Les Pooch pins are polished and go through the coat so much nicer.

       

      Barb

    • June 10, 2012 8:48 AM CDT
    • So I got in the wholesale order form for les pooch, the online prices are outlandish.  I have used them a few times but this is years ago in grooming school.

       

      I use the petedge brand and it seems like my brushes are too hard, they break and the comb teeth bend.  It's awful.  I am so sick of replacing brushes/combs every 3-6 months.  It's not like we are even doing that many dogs or using them improperly, they just stink.

       

      so I was looking at their brushes/combs and if I get 3 brushes and one comb it'll run me around $200, that seems a bit steep.  Also we only use organic/natural shampoos but I was considering them for one of my own dogs, are they any good?

       

      My main breeds are shih tzus, poms and labs, so we don't do a lot of poodles... but with the brushes  have doing a hand scissor and a brush out really sucks. :(

    • April 24, 2012 12:18 AM CDT
    • Just looked up the liz paul combs, they look very much like the jody Murphy comb. Any differences in the two combs? By the way I LOVE the jody Murphy comb! Love the 10" length. Keeps your hand far enough away from the dog so you can really see what your doing and it also lifts the coat well.

    • April 20, 2012 4:11 PM CDT
    • I just ordered Liz Paul combs from her daughter!  Can't wait to get them.  She's taking them to Intergroom where Penny will pick them up and bring them back to IL with her on Monday.